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Very very confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I really did not make clear ... my poor In reply to spitfirebill: I added that factor due to the fact that when I needed to locate a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go with every one in every junkyard in South Jacket to locate one that had not been sludged up truly terribly.
Bernie: Which is a better van, while we're going to chat about a few problems of these vans, however I I'm clearly not mosting likely to come out and state one is far better than the various other. So if that's what you're searching for, you'll need to wait. Mark: So what are several of the differences in between these two brands? Bernie: Well, they're basically the same vehicle.
They appear to be a little bit extra utilized because area, yet, you recognize, those are a few of the uses, yet they're basically the exact same group of vehicle. Mark: So, well, let's start with engines then. What issues do you see in between these 2 automobiles? Bernie: Yeah. So allow's discuss engine and in fact just to specify that the design years, we're going to begin from 2000 and up, you recognize, I imply, these vans have actually been around for a long period of time.
And, you recognize, for a variation of a Chevy van has actually been around considering that, you recognize, around that time also. So we're not going to get back into, right into the earlier stuff. Considering that 2000, I indicate, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are far more preferred and I would not really advise a V6 engine.
You understand, Fords, and most of them come with the Triton V8. There's a great deal of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 trigger plugs with strike to these engines, because they didn't have sufficient threading in the spark plug, which caused troubles. And typically that would happen when you may be in a 15 passenger bus going up a hill with a lots of people and all of an abrupt boom, a trigger plug pops out and you're stranded.
If you're getting anything from possibly 08 and newer, you're not going to have that kind of trigger plug issues. Other locations though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will leakage, they'll establish coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold typically you have to change the entire point.
And there's some issues, the Ford engine I have to claim in their favour, since I'm discussing troubles, it's a much more advanced engine. Overhead cam, so you're obtaining even more power and performance out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is a less complex design with push rods.
They're simply truly respectable, sturdy, strong engines. You recognize, being a van, obviously, you recognize, doing any type of solution on them is a lot more complex since you have actually reached get rid of that cover and enter into servicing in strange ways. Points like spark plugs last a horrible long time, so they don't need to be changed extremely commonly.
Mark: Can you buy these vans with diesel motor? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can not consider if we have actually ever done a Chevy, but Chevy, they're offered from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a long period of time, like back prior to the 2000 version year.
You understand, that's still readily available. I would certainly not recommend a diesel unless you're transporting exceptionally hefty lots. Diesels need to be worked. That's truly the bottom line with a diesel. If you're a say, I do not recognize, I'm just going to say a plumbing professional and you've got like a whole lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're pulling a trailer behind it, that would certainly be an actually excellent use of having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it looks like the diesels are, they appear to have less troubles in vans than they carry out in the vehicles. Probably due to the fact that they aren't functioned so hard, but when things happen, they're really costly to deal with. We've obtained a lot of video clips and info concerning diesels, specifically the Fords.
You truly need to assume twice concerning getting a diesel in a van. And I will state, Chevy is rather much limited to V8 engines, however Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is a monstrous gas wolfing engine.
If you're, and once again, we're simply chatting concerning kind of a directly, normal freight van right here. Look at your objective, your usage, just how much weight you're transporting and that'll assist you make the choice.
Something that we have not spoken concerning below is what type of van. These vans are, and it depends on what model, they're available ever before from half lot to one heap chassis and really several of the cutaway vans are in fact even more durable, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for claim the Fords.
Bernie: You know, I'm going to give the edge to Ford on this one. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little less complex.
There's much less guiding affiliation associated with a Chevy. So there are much less components to break. They do a sphere joints that wear. So do Chevy's, but it appears, and the Chevy's most likely last a little bit longer than the Fords, but the, you recognize, the steering affiliation is much less challenging, so there's less parts and much less things to put on out.
The ride in a Ford is probably a little more truck like yet I do not understand if you 'd actually ever before really saw a difference between the two. It seems like their components are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy.
Somehow, they appear to last for one brake task. And then a great deal of times we take the brakes off and state, Oh, the dust boots torn, therefore the caliper requires to be replaced. I assume on a Ford and you can expect to invest a bit more money on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to swerve back prior to the 2000 model years, there were some Chevy vans that had really negative doors. I suggest, the moving doors were crap, you understand, actually severely developed. In fact, I would claim that if you are also looking at something older, it feels like Chevy and GMC vans really and their trucks as a whole really took a leap forward in quality around the 2000 model year, since there was a great deal of things where the brakes for example would certainly not last long whatsoever.
But if we're checking out the 2000 newer, I mean, I 'd say they're both possibly practically equivalent in high quality, fit and coating, you recognize, several of the guest vans, certainly we'll have nicer appointments than the cargo vans. Yet I can not state that of them sticks out to me a little bit more than the various other.
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